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	<title>Comments on: Book Review: &#8220;Confessions of a Reformission Rev.&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.headtheology.com/book-review-confessions-of-a-reformission-rev/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 06:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read and loved Driscoll&#039;s book.  It is refreshing to hear a pastor sound just like a normal guy and not some spiritual Superman who I can&#039;t relate to.  Pastors are just ordinary sinful men just like me.
Another book that you should review and is a good read is &quot;Confessions of a Pastor&quot; by Craig Groeschel.  I know another &#039;Confessions&#039; book but they are completely unrelated and are very different from each other.  Still, it is very insightful to read of a pastor who is down to earth and real--he has the same weaknesses and struggles we all have.

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Pastor-Adventures-Dropping-Getting/dp/1590527208/sr=8-1/qid=1167709079/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4429473-3764668?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read and loved Driscoll&#8217;s book.  It is refreshing to hear a pastor sound just like a normal guy and not some spiritual Superman who I can&#8217;t relate to.  Pastors are just ordinary sinful men just like me.<br />
Another book that you should review and is a good read is &#8220;Confessions of a Pastor&#8221; by Craig Groeschel.  I know another &#8216;Confessions&#8217; book but they are completely unrelated and are very different from each other.  Still, it is very insightful to read of a pastor who is down to earth and real&#8211;he has the same weaknesses and struggles we all have.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Pastor-Adventures-Dropping-Getting/dp/1590527208/sr=8-1/qid=1167709079/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4429473-3764668?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Pastor-Adventures-Dropping-Getting/dp/1590527208/sr=8-1/qid=1167709079/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4429473-3764668?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.headtheology.com/book-review-confessions-of-a-reformission-rev/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their polity is actually a modified elder rule. Each dept of the church seems to be led by Pastor/elders who lead their area and vote on church wide issues when all pastors need to weigh in.  It is very similar to most Bible churches - elder led, but independent churches.  The congregation actually has a role in affirming the leadership of men put before them as candidates for elder.  The congregation obviously has a role in recommending, affirming, examining candidates etc. but all is not decided on a majority vote.  It seems to me that the congregation has certain roles designated to it by the New Testament. There is a resounding clarity in the areas in which the Scriptures call the congregation to be responsible. These areas are as follows: 1) Sending emissaries to intra-church councils (Acts 15)14, 2) Matters of church discipline, membership and excommunication/putting out of the midst (Matthew 18:15-20; 1 Cor 5; 2 Cor 2:1-11) 3) Matters of doctrinal fidelity (Gal 1) and 4) Calling of Servants/Deacons (Acts 6:3 – the church should choose servants for various tasks so to not call the elders away from their primary role of prayer and teaching the word). These areas, though they may be led and guided by elders, are the clear responsibility of the congregation. 

Remember Paul&#039;s exhortation to Titus was: This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you Titus 1:5...

I wrote a deal on this for an ecclesiology elective - you can read it &lt;a href=&quot;http://theresurgence.com/reid_monaghan_2005_reflections_on_the_church&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here at The Resurgence&lt;/a&gt;

PS - I am an external student at the seminary - so I understand the congregationalist view...but I am not Baptist and off campus so the brainwash, er convincing, hasn&#039;t taken place with me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their polity is actually a modified elder rule. Each dept of the church seems to be led by Pastor/elders who lead their area and vote on church wide issues when all pastors need to weigh in.  It is very similar to most Bible churches &#8211; elder led, but independent churches.  The congregation actually has a role in affirming the leadership of men put before them as candidates for elder.  The congregation obviously has a role in recommending, affirming, examining candidates etc. but all is not decided on a majority vote.  It seems to me that the congregation has certain roles designated to it by the New Testament. There is a resounding clarity in the areas in which the Scriptures call the congregation to be responsible. These areas are as follows: 1) Sending emissaries to intra-church councils (Acts 15)14, 2) Matters of church discipline, membership and excommunication/putting out of the midst (Matthew 18:15-20; 1 Cor 5; 2 Cor 2:1-11) 3) Matters of doctrinal fidelity (Gal 1) and 4) Calling of Servants/Deacons (Acts 6:3 – the church should choose servants for various tasks so to not call the elders away from their primary role of prayer and teaching the word). These areas, though they may be led and guided by elders, are the clear responsibility of the congregation. </p>
<p>Remember Paul&#8217;s exhortation to Titus was: This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you Titus 1:5&#8230;</p>
<p>I wrote a deal on this for an ecclesiology elective &#8211; you can read it <a href="http://theresurgence.com/reid_monaghan_2005_reflections_on_the_church" rel="nofollow">here at The Resurgence</a></p>
<p>PS &#8211; I am an external student at the seminary &#8211; so I understand the congregationalist view&#8230;but I am not Baptist and off campus so the brainwash, er convincing, hasn&#8217;t taken place with me :)</p>
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